Todd Boudreaux: Teaching a New Dog New Tricks
When it comes to engines, racers, enthusiasts, and gearheads in general know that, all other things being equal, there is no substitute for cubic inches. That is why "big blocks" from all the "Big 3" manufacturers have been so popular for so long. However, one of the drawbacks to all that power is the excessive weight that is inherent to the big block (exotics like the ZL-1 and aftermarket aluminum blocks from Rodeck or Donovan notwithstanding). Well, how would you like to eat your cake and have it too?
Today's modern small blocks with EFI, infinitely "tunable" computer engine management systems, and advanced camshaft and cylinder head designs offer the potential for power levels that only 10 years ago were nearly unheard of except in the most specialized, high dollar arenas that were pretty much restricted to "race-only" applications. That's all changed now, and we're about to take a look at a modified version one of the most accessible small-blocks around, the all-aluminum, third generation of the GM small block: the LS-1 (5.7 liters) and LS-2 (6.0 liters) series.
My very good friend, Todd Boudreaux, and I worked together building LS-1's for customers a few years back, and he has tons of experience, having built hundreds of LS-1's in everything from stock to twin-turbo applications. His motors have competed in the grueling "Baja 1000" off-road race and finished without a whimper. In his latest creation, Todd has used a stroker crank to make a 402 CID (6.6 liters) MONSTER that makes 650 HP with NO blower, turbo, or nitrous. That's right...650 NA/Normally Aspirated horsepower in a lightweight (400 lbs., give or take) package based on the new for 2005 LS-2 (a revised version of its hugely successful progenitor GenIII LS-1) which, as the standard engine in the new C6 Corvette, GTO, and Holden HSV series, makes 400 HP and just over 400 lbs./ft. of torque in stock trim.
Along with the stroker crank, other features in this fully blueprinted, hand assembled, dyno tested, RFI (Ready for Installation) engine package include:
**I'll translate for the layman: My friend Todd builds a really powerful engine that will make whatever you have very fast.**
Today's modern small blocks with EFI, infinitely "tunable" computer engine management systems, and advanced camshaft and cylinder head designs offer the potential for power levels that only 10 years ago were nearly unheard of except in the most specialized, high dollar arenas that were pretty much restricted to "race-only" applications. That's all changed now, and we're about to take a look at a modified version one of the most accessible small-blocks around, the all-aluminum, third generation of the GM small block: the LS-1 (5.7 liters) and LS-2 (6.0 liters) series.
My very good friend, Todd Boudreaux, and I worked together building LS-1's for customers a few years back, and he has tons of experience, having built hundreds of LS-1's in everything from stock to twin-turbo applications. His motors have competed in the grueling "Baja 1000" off-road race and finished without a whimper. In his latest creation, Todd has used a stroker crank to make a 402 CID (6.6 liters) MONSTER that makes 650 HP with NO blower, turbo, or nitrous. That's right...650 NA/Normally Aspirated horsepower in a lightweight (400 lbs., give or take) package based on the new for 2005 LS-2 (a revised version of its hugely successful progenitor GenIII LS-1) which, as the standard engine in the new C6 Corvette, GTO, and Holden HSV series, makes 400 HP and just over 400 lbs./ft. of torque in stock trim.
Along with the stroker crank, other features in this fully blueprinted, hand assembled, dyno tested, RFI (Ready for Installation) engine package include:
- all aluminum block, 6 bolt cross-bolted maincaps
- all new from Airflow Research (AFR) "Mongoose" aluminum cylinder heads, fitted with 2.08" intake/1.60" exhaust valves, custom 5-angle valve seats, roller rockers, 225cc intake port, ARP studs
- custom pistons, 12.5:1 compression - race fuel (110 PON octane) required
- custom stainless rods w/ ARP bolts
- proprietary camshaft, custom ground by Competition Cams with matched springs
- 90mm throttle body and FAST LSX lightweight composite intake manifold
- 85lb./hr. fuel injectors and adjustable fuel pressure regulator
- custom-tuned-length 1.75"-1.875" diameter stepped-primary racing headers
- GM/Delphi marine-grade MEFI-IV ECU, custom burned, w/ 5 wire "plug-and-play" universal harness using tried and true, race-proven GM "Weather-pack" connectors
- crank-triggered, individual coil-near-plug ignition
**I'll translate for the layman: My friend Todd builds a really powerful engine that will make whatever you have very fast.**
244 Comments:
I have no idea what you just said.
Hi Stan, sorry about that. LOL!!! Gear heads will know what I'm saying. Just giving my friend some publicity.
I'll translate for the layman: My friend Todd builds a really powerful engine that will make whatever you have very fast.
Fast... I like fast.
I can't wait until the LS7 arrives in crate form. All 500hp and 475lb-ft worth.
427ci small block, Titanium rods and valves (sodium filled exhaust valves), 15-degree cylinder heads, and being the highest revving (7000 rpm) production engine with a cam still in the block. Got to love that.
I can only imagine what that thing could be capable of in Mr. Boudreaux's hands.
Considering the specs of the custom LS2 for "only" 10 grand, that’s a steal. I'm expecting the LS7 to be around 20 thousand when released.
SDPC has the GMPP 502 for about 9 thousand USD, but it only makes 500hp and weighs as much as any big iron block.
Tyler, Katech Engineering, the firm GM contracted to build the 7.0 liter LS-1/LS-7 for the Corvette C5R and C6R endurance racers, has customer versions rated at 575HP, 625 lbs/ft of torque, selling for just over $20,000, and you must provide a core. Lingenfelter Performance offers similar packages in the same price range.
I put together a 5.0 liter version using the 4.8 liter truck engine crankshaft with the 5.7 Vette top end and the GM "HOT Cam" and we got 475HP; the thing revved to 7200 RPM. Was like a modern Z-28 motor.
What type of heads did you use?
I mean what vette? Just the LS1 or LS6 heads or something from a C4?
Tyler, standard 2000 LS-1 Vette heads with the springs that come with the GMPP HOT Cam. None of the pre-LS-1 stuff is interchangeable with the LS-1 and vice-versa, except the rod bolts. LOL!!
That 5.0 I did went in a sandrail that weighed about 1500 lbs. Yahoooooo!!!
7200 rpm, wow! What could you do with a 307? (LOL!) A STOCK 307 at that.
Tyler...use it for a boat anchor. LOL!!!
Seriously, the 307's aren't good candidates for making power, mainly due to the small bore size which shrouds the valves in the chamber and limits their size. You can make some gains, however, by stroking and boring the motor to 331cid and using World Products S/R "Torquer" heads along with the usual performance upgrades. The only thing is the cost: If you perform the same mods on a 350 you'll get a bigger return not only in actual power figures, but on a "bang-for-the-buck" basis as well. _
I thought that. But I ran across this in a article in Car Craft a few years back.
Make Your 307 Live
Perhaps the least-often hopped-up small-block is the 307, a '68-'73 offering that's really nothing more than a stroked 283. The 307 uses a 3.875 bore (same as the 283) and the crank is the same as the desirable large-journal 327 unit-it has 350-style mains(2.450-inch) with a 3.250 stroke. So how can your 307 scream? One option is to steal the crank and put it in a 4.000- or 4.125-inch-bore block. But if you want to use the 307 block, the cheapest thing to do is to use pistons designed for a 283, like the Keith Black hypereuteics (PN KB165 with a 6cc dish or KB166 with a 4cc dome) with a compression height of 1.805. To make toe pistons work with the extra 0.250 inch-stroke (compared to a 283), just use stock Chevrolet 400 rods, which are the shortest OE rods at 5.565 inches. Short rods are usually a bad plan, but with such a short stroke, the rod ratio is still 1.71:1, better than a stock 350's. Mill the block 0.025 inches for an even 9.000-inch deck height, and your deck clearance will be at 0.005. With a 0.030-inch overbore, you have 311ci, and if you used the 4dd-domed slugs with 64cc chambers in the heads, you'll have about 10.0:1 compression. It could make 350 hp very cheaply if you step on it the right way.
But then I figured screw it and just get a LS1 crate motor.
That's the beauty of Chevy small blocks: the ability to mix and match, something that is not that convenient with Fords or Mopars. I have seen many of those 307 build-up articles, and they are all great ideas if that is what you have to work with.
My favorite mix and match is the 400 block with the 350 crank and rods, yielding 377cid (with a .030" overbore) - the "poor man's" NASCAR motor (they use the 400-style Bow Tie block with the 4.125" bore and a custom crank with about 3.30" stroke to get their 358cid). I built one years back that made over 450hp with pocket-ported 441 iron heads and a hydraulic cam. With the big bore/short stroke it really liked to rev - 7000RPM with power - but not too often as it would float the valves with the hydraulic cam. With today's cylinder head and camshaft technology I would love to build another one, because I know I could get well over 500HP on pump gas and a single 4bbl carb.
I have always preferred the 350 block with the stroker crank and .030 overbore yielding 383ci. I have seen a few that usually make 400-450hp with little effort and no power adders. SDPC has kits that run (I think) $800 for what you would need.
383's are cool, no doubt. I have preferred them for towing applications or use in heavy street machines where low-end torque is king. The 377 gives up a little in the low-end torque department, but with the short stroke/big bore combination, it more than makes up for it in the mid-range and top end (like a 327 on steroids), especially with 6" rods (which I didn't have). This motor I did hit *real* hard at 4000 and pulled *hard* until I shifted, usually around 6200-6400. There was nothing exotic in that motor at all; just mostly well matched stock parts, good machine work, and a lot of double checking clearances and careful assembly.
I ended up doing that motor by accident when my friend pulled a 400 from his Suburban. It had spun 2 mains and 3 rods, so he gave it too me. I acquired a forged 350 crank and rods out of an old LT-1 from another friend with a shop - $100 for the rotating assembly. I added some new TRW forged slugs made for the de-stroked 400 to use the 5.7" 350 rods, and a set of spacer bearings from RHS to use the 350 crank in the 400 block. The cam was the Comp 290H Magnum with 501" lift; Holley 750 w/vacuum secondaries, Hooker headers, and Victor Jr. single plane intake another friend gave me. I was pleasantly surprised, and if you like rev boxes, the 377 is it.
That 377 went in my '78 GMC stepside with a built Turbo 350, 2600 RPM converter, and 3.90:1 rear-end. With 26" slicks it went high 12's at 117 MPH - it just would not hook-up in first gear and halfway through second, but it pulled like a motherfucker on the top end, even in that brick of a truck. On the street it ate 5.0 'Stangs and 'Vettes of the time (late 80's) all day long.
Speaking of SDPC, they and GT Racing Engines built a 377 a few years back ('96 or '97, I think) for Chevy Hi Performance magazine with the then new SB2 cylinder heads, a single 4 bbl on a Hogan sheetmetal intake, and made 715hp at 7,600 RPM, with a red line of 8,000. My kingdom for a bottomless, blank checkbook!
*117 mph - sorry, meant to hit the 4... high 12's at 114 mph
Cool.
Hi, ##NAME##, very interesting, what you wrote. Not exactly my bag, as I was hunting for Very Fast Cars stuff when I saw it. good material there. All the best,John ##LINK##
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