Monday, May 16, 2005

A Muslim Responds...and He's NOT a Happy Camper

Well, well, well. It seems I got a live one who goes by the handle, "NSM." He is a member of the Great Religion of Peace, and he takes issue with today's Editorial. He commented on our last post, and we thought it was so good that it deserves its own time in the sun. The usual procedure applies: His comments in the grey boxes, my rebuttals below each. Let's get started, shall we?

(NSM): Firstly mates, you must understand that you shall never quite understand Islam and Muslims unless you have lived in a Muslim country.
If I have heard that once, I've heard it a thousand times; this victim mentality crap is getting tiresome. Firstly, mate, what is so special about you Muslims that you feel this sense of entitlement or privilege that everybody else owes you understanding or anything else? It's always the rest of us that don't get it. Let me tell you, my friend, I have spent some time in Muslim countries, and I've seen how you treat your own kind; I understand you all to well. I don't need to live in a pile of shit to know it stinks.
We are perpetually besought with issues of extremism and lack of education.
Yes, and it is largely of your own doing. Your culture has remained stagnant for 1,000 years, and many among you find themselves lost in a world they cannot comprehend. Again, that is largely of your own doing. Rather than educate your people, your tribal elders and imams have deliberately kept your people ignorant, perpetuating centuries of barbaric and out-dated customs and traditions, fueling hate which justifies the misery so many of your people face. The educated ones among you either recognize this condition and advocate some type of reformation, or, like you, they exploit this condition and continue to make excuses and blame everybody else for "not getting it." Wake up, and look within your own culture to make some changes where they really apply; and stop trying to force everybody else to accept your bullshit ways, mate.
We certainly are much more sensitive, so why-oh-why would you wish to poke "the bear"? You know that we react strongly.
Ahhhh, thank you for proving my point. You object to what I have written in today's Editorial which, by the way, you cannot dispute, so now comes the indignation and semi-veiled threats. First, you flatter yourselves if you see yourselves as bears; I see you more like hyenas. You make lots of noise; you're tough in packs when you prey on the innocent or out-numbered; and you run and hide when confronted by an equal or superior force. Second, I'm a former United States Marine, and I don't scare easily or give a shit how strongly you react, pal. I'll react even stronger. And there are a whole lot more like me who, when push comes to shove, will go to the mat again, if that is what it comes down to. Save the tough talk. In the words of my President, "Bring it on."

Oh, I almost forgot the last part, directed at one of our readers and all around good guy, Stan:
Secondly, I request stanley that he not name his cat after our Holy Prophet. We Muslims believe in Christ as a prophet, the Bible as a holy book, the Virgin Mary and the same God; and have never in our history and present insulted the mentioned, as this too is a sacrilege in Islam.
Stan can respond as he sees fit, but I'll speak for myself. NSM, first of all, I wouldn't name my cat after your holy prophet, just because I don't like the name. But if I were so inclined, I would; and I would tell you to go f*ck yourself. If you find it sacriligious, don't name your pet after your holy prophet. This idea that everybody else has to recognize or bow down to your ways, again, proves my point that your culture and religion have no tolerance for any other way of living.

Cheers
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**Addendum** Here you go. It didn't take my better half very long to find an example of the filthy, ass-backwards, repressive customs far too many Muslims bring with them when they emigrate to the West:
In the past four months, six Muslim women living in Berlin have been brutally murdered by family members. Their crime? Trying to break free and live Western lifestyles. Within their communities, the killers are revered as heroes for preserving their family dignity. How can such a horrific and shockingly archaic practice be flourishing in the heart of Europe? The deaths have sparked momentary outrage, but will they change the grim reality for Muslim women?
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The shots came from nowhere and within minutes the young Turkish mother standing at the Berlin bus stop was dead....Hatin (Surucu's) crime, it appears, was the desire to lead a normal life in her family's adopted land. The vivacious 23-year-old beauty, who was raised in Berlin, divorced the Turkish cousin she was forced to marry at age 16. She also discarded her Islamic head scarf, enrolled in a technical school where she was training to become an electrician and began dating German men. For her family, such behavior represented the ultimate shame -- the embrace of "corrupt" Western ways.

The crime might be easier to digest if it had been an archaic anomaly, but five other Muslim women have been murdered in Berlin during the past four months by their husbands or partners for besmirching the family's Muslim honor. Two of them were stabbed to death in front of their young children, one was shot, one strangled and a fifth drowned.
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The Turkish women's organization Papatya has documented 40 instances of honor killings in Germany since 1996. Examples include a Darmstadt girl whose two brothers pummelled her to death with a hockey stick in April 2004 after they learned she had slept with her boyfriend. In Augsburg in April, a man stabbed his wife and 7-year-old daughter because the wife was having an affair. In December 2003, a Tuebingen father strangled his 16-year-old daughter and threw her body into a lake because she had a boyfriend. Bullets, knives, even axes and gasoline are the weapons of choice. The crime list compiled by Papatya is an exercise in horror. And the sad part, said Boehmecke, is that it is far from complete. "We'll never really know how many victims there are. Too often these crimes go unreported."
NSM, what is it, again, that you think I don't understand? You come here with your high and mighty attitude in defense of your pathetic culture? You have no defense. You disgust me. Piss off.

8 Comments:

Blogger BobF said...

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2:56 AM  
Blogger BobF said...

Back in 1980 when Operation Elf One kicked off in Saudi Arabia, the Saudi’s put us up in a hotel where in each of the rooms was a Koran. This copy of the Koran was different in that it contained an English translation and English commentary. In my spare time I did some reading of the commentary. What NSM says about their belief of Mary being a Virgin at the time of Christ’s birth and about Christ being a Prophet is correct. Matter of fact, I think it stated that Mohammed said that Christ was the Greatest Prophet. Mohammed also said that a Prophet cannot lie.

Not lets figure this out with some deductive reasoning?

If Mohammad said that Christ is the Greatest Prophet who cannot lie and Christ said Him and the Father are one, meaning that Him and God the Father are the same, then according to Mohammad Christ is GOD. Am I correct in my reasoning?

2:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think I'll name my septic tank Mohammed.
Gawd that religion is so backward.

12:14 PM  
Blogger Mae said...

Bob, I follow your logic perfectly.

Barb, don't desecrate your septic tank like that. LOL!!!

12:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will send you a picture of the cat as soon as I find him.

1:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe, email me the comment you deleted.

1:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay, I'm totally stupid on this. Why move to an westernized country in the first place? Oh! You're totally oppressed in your muthaland and need a break? k. So, when you get to this new world, you can not assimilate for if you do, the penalty is death? Why make the trip then?

Sorry. I don't feel bad for these women. I know..that's really harsh, but hey. She could easily have killed the SOB first, done some easy time, and been set totally free. Hell, maybe she wouldn't have to do any time at all! I imagine the germans aren't going to roast the guy for offing his 'uppity' woman now are they?
40 honor killings in Germany in 9 years and those are only the reported ones. I wouldn't worry about it. We have more gangsta's offing each other in a year than that.

You can't fix what is broke in the Muslim world, by staring a cruisade in Germany or Japan or the US.

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